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Old 01-05-2019, 02:10 AM   #1
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Tucker Carlson's Epic Op-Ed Response to Mitt Romney (Jan 2nd 2019)

For those that missed it Tucker Carlson rebutted Mitt Romney's Op-Ed the other day.

It's about 15 minutes long and I think anyone who is Right, Libertarian, or considers themselves Center would find it noteworthy. I wouldn't be surprised if moderate Lefts also found themselves nodding along.

It is not a diatribe or a frothing rant and, as one reporter noted, if it had been spoken by one of our new Jr. Congress Critters it would be all over every real and fake news channel or website. But it is just Tucker Carlson on Fox which means the audience is going to be more limited. It takes on a lot of sacred cows from, surprisingly, the Right. There's barely any talk about the Democrats.
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:01 AM   #2
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Tucker's saying the same damn thing I've been saying, that Globalism is garbage that's the jist of what he is saying here. Mittens is about as Rino as you can get, he also went out of his way to make sure Obozo the clown got a 2nd term, controlled opposition. Always has been, from being a shitty Mass Governor, pushing liberal policies, to being a shitty Utah senator. Term limits, now.
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Tucker's saying the same damn thing I've been saying, that Globalism is garbage that's the jist of what he is saying here. Mittens is about as Rino as you can get, he also went out of his way to make sure Obozo the clown got a 2nd term, controlled opposition. Always has been, from being a shitty Mass Governor, pushing liberal policies, to being a shitty Utah senator. Term limits, now.
What I get is everyone wants to keep their hands off economics thinking it can be abstracted from culture.

However what Tucker is saying is economics is intertwined in the foundation of every issue we have, most especially marriage and family and the fallout of how the broken family leads to where we're at now. Therefore as long as people of all political leanings are desperate to maintain the illusion that we can solve the problems we have without addressing the economic issues we're screwed.

He spends time focusing some on the devaluation of masculine traits and the uncutting of the value of those traits to families and society. The risk/reward of a father or male influence in a family is so out of whack who knows what it will take to get back in balance for anyone, except the elites, of course.
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Old 01-05-2019, 04:24 AM   #4
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What I get is everyone wants to keep their hands off economics thinking it can be abstracted from culture.

However what Tucker is saying is economics is intertwined in the foundation of every issue we have, most especially marriage and family and the fallout of how the broken family leads to where we're at now. Therefore as long as people of all political leanings are desperate to maintain the illusion that we can solve the problems we have without addressing the economic issues we're screwed.

He spends time focusing some on the devaluation of masculine traits and the uncutting of the value of those traits to families and society. The risk/reward of a father or male influence in a family is so out of whack who knows what it will take to get back in balance for anyone, except the elites, of course.
He's alluding to the Fed and the pushing of marxism/feminism etc. Read between the lines.
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He's alluding to the Fed and the pushing of marxism/feminism etc. Read between the lines.
I don't have to read between the lines, his message is perfectly clear. You only need to read between the lines if you're looking for something that isn't there.

Does the Fed impact economics? Sure but so does the minimum wage, and the weather, and what movies are doing well in the box office, and the season of the year, what team is doing well at [Sportsball]. I guess if I read between the lines he's talking about any and of those things.

You're looking so much for the globalist and jewish boogeymen you don't even see a crystal clear statement about the how the destruction of the family, how respect for male traits and classic family values are only tolerated - or affordable - among the elite classes. It is by design, and no one cares to solve the problem because no one considers our current economic policy to be part of the degeneration of the family.

Economics, the free market MUST NOT BE TOUCHED even though it is clearly an enormous factor in the decline of good families:
1) First the decline of inner cities and now
2) The same type of decline being seen in Rural America

Any solution which doesn't include some sort of economic revamp is doomed to failure. So far no one has the balls to take on the "free market" (at least as free as congress will let it be, and I refer you back to the Disney discussion in the Main forum to how powerful Disney is now that they own 21st Century).

And as long as it doesn't look like there is any hope, rather than helping Americans, the path of least resistance is to continue to bring in foreign labor and ignoring what's happening to our own people under our noses.
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I don't have to read between the lines, his message is perfectly clear. You only need to read between the lines if you're looking for something that isn't there.

Does the Fed impact economics? Sure but so does the minimum wage, and the weather, and what movies are doing well in the box office, and the season of the year, what team is doing well at [Sportsball]. I guess if I read between the lines he's talking about any and of those things.

You're looking so much for the globalist and jewish boogeymen you don't even see a crystal clear statement about the how the destruction of the family, how respect for male traits and classic family values are only tolerated - or affordable - among the elite classes. It is by design, and no one cares to solve the problem because no one considers our current economic policy to be part of the degeneration of the family.

Economics, the free market MUST NOT BE TOUCHED even though it is clearly an enormous factor in the decline of good families:
1) First the inner cities and now
2) Rural America

Any solution which doesn't include some sort of economic revamp is doomed to failure. So far no one has the balls to take on the "free market" (at least as free as congress will let it be, and I refer you back to the Disney discussion in the Main forum to how powerful Disney is now that they own 21st Century).

And as long as it doesn't look like there is any hope, rather than helping Americans, the path of least resistance is to continue to bring in foreign labor and ignoring what's happening to our own people under our noses.
And the root of that is the fed manipulating not only the worth of the dollar but interest rates whenever they see fit. They raised rates once during Obama's entire presidency, they've done it 4 times since Trump took office. The left has assaulted the family unit for decades, the blacks were easier to manipulate, destroying the family unit, pushing abortion etc.

By playing identity politics they've pushed that woman are greater than they actually are, when you combine that with America's manufacturing sector being decimated by high taxes along with all the lobbying it's a slam dunk. The root of the issue is marxism, identity politics and the fed's manipulation tactics. You don't need a tinfoil hat to see that either. They want massive immigration for all the reasons you just posted. Like I said there's a reason they're flooding Europe with muslims. Do the fucking math vallor.
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Old 01-05-2019, 06:14 AM   #7
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The Fed is not the Left. Insomuch as feminism and identity politics are driving the confusion and creating division within the people we are in total agreement. Do I agree the Fed is part of the problem? Yes. I feel the same way about any unaccountable organization with this much power over our our country (similar to the CFPB).

However, they are small potatoes when it comes to "what happened" to our manufacturing sector.

The our politicians as a whole and Unions have way more to do with the destruction of America's manufacturing sector. High interest rates or Fed malfeasance are distant, distant contributors.

It was destroyed by treaties like NAFTA which undercut the ability for Unions to hold manufacturers at gunpoint when it came to bargaining time and they priced themselves and their members out of work. When they wouldn't (or couldn't) compromise the business went to Mexico or Canada where people would work for less, cause ANY money was better for them. The US it simply cost too much.

It was destroyed by Nixon when he went to China and finally opened relations. It was destroyed when we gave China "Most Favored Nation" trading status despite their shenanigans. A policy which has existed since the 1980 under Reagan till late 1990s/early 2000s where we changed the nomenclature to "Normal Trade Relations" in part to get around WTO restrictions against countries with Civil Rights abuses being awarded MFN status.

Again, the fact the Fed is part of the economic engine is only a small piece of the puzzle and certainly not the biggest. Not even in the top 5.

Once manufacturing left the manufacturing centers crumbled which explains Detroit and a few other cities. It doesn't explain a place like Chicago or Baltimore. It also doesn't explain the fall of Rural America. I suspect we should be looking to the decline of fossil fuels for that, however now that the US is the #1 generator of oil in the world you'd think those folks who were working in the coal areas could find work in shale/fracking fields. Except for the illegal aliens who will work cheap as shit.
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He hits the mark on a lot of points, and he's triggered the establishment to respond to what they are calling a 'victimhood' and 'unconservative' mentality that desires government intervention rather than 'pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.' Since the establishment is pissed at him, I know most of what he says is right. It's just like a leftist's accusations: whatever they say about you is a projection of their own failures and faults.

He's right:
* Our establishment wants continual militaristic adventures everywhere. I AM SICK AS HELL of sending American lives and treasures down the toilet of other nations' problems. SICK OF IT.
* We don't need 'more, more, more' rivers of plastic shit and stuff. It's pointless.
* You can't separate economics from family and faith, because without the economic environment to thrive, families (and faith based institutions) crumble. The inner cities, and black families, have crumbled from decades of government policies that directed human behavior in directions destructive to humans. Now the same is happening in rural areas.
* The destruction of the male wage earner, particularly at the blue collar end of the economic spectrum, has DESTROYED tens of millions of families. Most conservatives have been just fine with this, as have most leftists/liberals. Fuck 'em.
* Putting corporations first is bondage. The economic system we live within should serve us, we don't serve it.
* Not all commerce is good. Payday loan outlets are vampiric bastards who should be driven out of business. And watch out for banks ripping you off. I shorted my last credit card bill payment a hundred bucks accidentally and they charged me interest on over $2,000 in balance. Fucking assholes were trying to sneak that by me but I read my statement, caught it, called them up and got that rescinded. How the hell did that happen when I had only missed $100 on the payment? They couldn't tell me, of course! Must have been a mistake! Yeah...mistake. The automated system at the bank screwed up their most basic function of interest charges on late balance amounts. Sure it did. Fuck you.
* Americans who work for income pay twice the rate of folks who live off inheritance money/capital. This is complete and utter bullshit. Plumbers and electricians are more important than Bain Capital bullshit and stockholders who do nothing.
* Unfairness is divisive. This is why I can't stand the permissiveness of illegal immigration. Two thirds of them suck at the federal teat and they get benefits my AMERICAN children will NEVER get while we obey the laws and have never drawn a dime of local/state/federal support.
* Market capitalism should not be a religion. It's a tool. We don't exist to serve markets, they serve us. Markets are not sacrosanct. ( I would add: We were not at some perfect free market status prior to Trump appearing, we simply have a system with layers and layers of rules that favor some over others. PERIOD. There is nothing 'conservative' about liking the current level of government intervention in the economy because it suits you...I'm talking to you, rich bastards...and hating Trump because he changes the list of winners and losers by changing the types of government intervention in the economy. COMPLETE HORSESHIT to call it conservative to destroy American families by outsourcing good manufacturing jobs and then to complain about the unconservative interventionist who wants to tariff those jobs back home. And it's working, too...job growth and participation rates are through the roof!).
* We need to put everyday Americans and families first. Period.

He's on the money. Conservatives who call him unconservative are simply liars. They've decided to frame 'conservative' as 'the current system of government intervention' rather than a changed one that prioritizes everyday Americans. Fuck 'em.

This is why I believe Trump, or a Trumpist populist of the left, will win in 2020. Folks are fucking tired of the rigged game the elites play.
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Excellent read in the lead-up to Trump's election.
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