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Old 10-03-2013, 09:46 PM   #1
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Radeon R9 200X & 290X Accidentally Priced

Not news worthy but definitely worth hardware dick-licking. I like hardware dick-licking. Almost as much as I like licking actual dick. Newegg leaked the price of the new Radeon today. Oops. We're looking at a card ranging somewhere from $699 for the 200X to $729 for the 290X. Very disappointing. Early numbers put the 290X card somewhere between a Titan and a 690. As the Titan proved, pre-release numbers are usually wrong or fabricated, so I am suspecting actual performance in the realm of a GTX 780 to match the similar pricing structure. Even with the free games AMD offers with their products this is highly unlikely to force a Nvidia MSRP reaction unless the card can truly deliver a better-than-Titan real world set of benchmarks.

Absent its use as competition for the market, the numbers are at best unimpressive for the cost and new generation. Two 7970s (At around $310 today, expect a slight dip) will deliver the same or greater speed, even on z77 or z87, for $90-200 less. If you distrust AMD's dual card ability to handle microstutter, you could link 3 GTX 760s for approximately $20 more. Unless the 290X is above the 690 in pure power I cannot see it offering a compelling reason to upgrade, especially with a new generation of Nvidia cards around the corner.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:48 PM   #2
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I'm most interested in the R9 270x myself, the $200 one.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:55 PM   #3
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This made me realize I need to just get another 770 until the next series is released... Then again last I heard release was Q1 2014 so maybe I should just wait. The hardware should be impressive considering the 700 series is basically the same as 600.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:58 PM   #4
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I'm most interested in the R9 270x myself, the $200 one.
  • If it is as good as the 760, fantastic deal
  • If it is as good as the 770, amazing deal
  • If it is as good as the 780, expect panic

I really like weighing the value of cards by their price to their performance, against competition and within a price class. Like cars. In all likelihood, however, the R 270x will be about as good as a GTX 650 Ti.

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This made me realize I need to just get another 770 until the next series is released... Then again last I heard release was Q1 2014 so maybe I should just wait. The hardware should be impressive considering the 700 series is basically the same as 600.
Yeah, but how are they going to spec it? Introduce a new GK chip? Drop the price of GK110 cards to reasonable levels or release $1100+ cards the first year of two very competent consoles? Repackage the 780 as the 870? Drop the CUDA cores further, leaving the 780 faster than the 870 or 860? This could potentially be the most confusing series of cards in history.

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Old 10-03-2013, 10:11 PM   #5
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It has to be better than the current $200 AMD card, the 7870, which by itself is better than the gtx 660 (but worse than the gtx 660 ti or gtx 760)

I'm hoping on par with the 760. The R9 GTX 280x has been "confirmed" to be a rebadged and overclocked 7970 ghz edition. However the 270x is using the new architecture.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:15 PM   #6
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It has to be better than the current $200 AMD card, the 7870, which by itself is better than the gtx 660 (but worse than the gtx 660 ti or gtx 760)

I'm hoping on par with the 760. The R9 GTX 280x has been "confirmed" to be a rebadged and overclocked 7970 ghz edition. However the 270x is using the new architecture.
R9 280 old architecture, current speed.
R9 270 new architecture, presumably slower.

Ugh, I hate graphic cards naming structure. REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS 1, 2 and 3? ATI ruined that. Voodoo, Voodoo 2, Voodoo 3, Voodoo 5--hey wait!
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:44 PM   #7
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Well, the 270x could take like 1/3rd the power or something. Not enough is known about it yet. I'm currently rocking a 7850 at the moment (massively overclocked) so I feel I'm good for at least one more generation.
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Old 10-03-2013, 11:26 PM   #8
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Ah yes, the 7K series has terrible power efficiency. They're also hot. How are you cooling yours with your OC?
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:47 AM   #9
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Very easily? I bought a model that has an open air cooler with two fans that does the job splendidly. It's not that bad power wise, uses a single 6 pin plug. Even at my overclock (1050mhz core /1380 ram) it idles at 40c and maxes out at 65c. I have the fan tuned much more aggressively than stock, but its still silent until it hits around 60c.

I also did that overclock without a single bit of overvolting or bios changes. I heard that 7850s can actually get faster than 1200mhz core, which is crazy.

My previous card was an ATI 4870 that used far more power and put out about twice as much heat, (at about half the polygons per second) so I love this thing.
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Old 10-04-2013, 08:17 AM   #10
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My son wants a new computer for Christmas, but I think $700 video cards are off the wish list.
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Old 10-04-2013, 08:35 AM   #11
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Been rocking to 6870's till my machine started just magically resetting itself recently. Turn off SLI and problem solved... Figure its most likely a power rail to the vid card but to lazy to check. May be time to upgrade? Waiting to see the reviews of these cards though
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Been rocking to 6870's till my machine started just magically resetting itself recently. Turn off SLI and problem solved... Figure its most likely a power rail to the vid card but to lazy to check. May be time to upgrade? Waiting to see the reviews of these cards though
I'm waiting on reviews myself. For the first time in nearly 15 years I bought a prebuilt, from Dell none the less. Its sitting with a crappy 7570 and I'm dying to upgrade it; I'm just not sure to what.
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I'm waiting on reviews myself. For the first time in nearly 15 years I bought a prebuilt, from Dell none the less. Its sitting with a crappy 7570 and I'm dying to upgrade it; I'm just not sure to what.
Prebuilt from Dell. Ew.
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Yup, running two 6870's in crossfire. Might have to upgrade.
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Prebuilt from Dell. Ew.
Ha, I know. I had a $300 gift card. I already upgraded the ram and the power supply and put in a ssd. Just waiting on a new card.
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Ha, I know. I had a $300 gift card. I already upgraded the ram and the power supply and put in a ssd. Just waiting on a new card.
So you bought a Dell mobo and case?
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So you bought a Dell mobo and case?
Just about. I really got it for the i7-4770. The case and mobo were gravy
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Just about. I really got it for the i7-4770. The case and mobo were gravy
YAY awful case and mobo! For shame.

Let the finger pointing commence.
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YAY awful case and mobo! For shame.

Let the finger pointing commence.
He can always buy a new case. But still....

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He can always buy a new case. But still....
At that point, he has a terrible mobo and a bunch of Dell parts strung around his room.

In shame.
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