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vallor 06-08-2014 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Anenome (Post 2308388)

I have a hard time paying attention to something which reminds me of a 70s dubbed kung-fu movie. Petty, yes. But I am their customer here and they aren't doing a great job making a good impression! :)

Also, how do you reconcile this with the data which still shows people paying less money for staple items leaving more disposable income? This guy is saying we have a falling standard of living but at the same breath says we have the a higher standard of living. I must be dumb cause I'm obviously not understanding the seeming contradiction here.

Things are never as cheap as they used to be, go back all the way to the dawn of man and I'm sure you'll see that too :)

p.s. re: the air in the cereal and potato chips. The air performs the important function of shipping protect and also contains nitrogen which helps preserve the food. Does it account for the lower volume? Not entirely but there is a good reason for some of that "empty".

Anemone 06-09-2014 12:06 PM

Sure, but that air in the bag performed that same protective function when the bag was 90% full instead of the now 2/3 full. Long story short, companies don't want to raise prices because price competition is the strongest form of competition, so they are instead reducing food quantities, which people are less likely to notice.

Also, during the entire 19th century the country experienced continual deflation where food and other prices continually dropped and everyone's buying power at the existing wage continued to increase, and it was pretty awesome.

Anemone 06-09-2014 12:22 PM

The coming digital anarchy
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Bitcoin is giving banks a run for their money. Now the same technology threatens to eradicate social networks, stock markets, even national governments. Are we heading towards an anarchic future where centralised power of any kind will dissolve?

The rise and rise of Bitcoin has grabbed the world’s attention, yet its devastating potential still isn’t widely understood. Yes, we all know it’s a digital currency. But the developers who worked on Bitcoin believe that it represents a technological breakthrough that could sweep into obsolescence everything from social networks to stock markets... and even governments.

In short, Bitcoin could be the gateway to a coming digital anarchy – “a catalyst for change that creates a new and different world,” to quote Jeff Garzik, one of Bitcoin’s most prolific developers.

It’s already beginning. We used to need banks to keep track of who owned what. Not any more. Bitcoin and its rivals have proved that banks can be replaced with software and clever mathematics.

And now programmers of a libertarian bent are starting to ask what else we don’t need...
Ah it's things like this that bring a smile to my face :) We're still winning, and there's nothing anyone can do to stop us because you can't kill an idea. The 20th will be seen as a brief lull of liberal ideas, the last gasp of tyrants, giving way to true anarchic liberty.

http://i.imgur.com/1OH6DlG.gif

SpectralThundr 06-09-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Anemone (Post 2308755)
The coming digital anarchy

Ah it's things like this that bring a smile to my face :) We're still winning, and there's nothing anyone can do to stop us because you can't kill an idea. The 20th will be seen as a brief lull of liberal ideas, the last gasp of tyrants, giving way to true anarchic liberty.

http://i.imgur.com/1OH6DlG.gif

Ahh yes the last gasp of tyrants giving way to new tyrants who can kick you out of an COLA with their armed tower guards for not liking how you look. :rolleyes:

VenomUSMC 06-09-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralThundr (Post 2308818)
Ahh yes the last gasp of tyrants giving way to new tyrants who can kick you out of an COLA with their armed tower guards for not liking how you look. :rolleyes:

Yup. Just opt out of tyranny. If only the Somalians had understood they didn't sign a contract with the warlords, those warlords would have been powerless. haha

Remember this:

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Originally Posted by Anenome
When people realize that all the people living in pure ancap regions are wealthy by comparison, with trust-fund babies and the like, they might think twice.

That's how I imagine it going down anyway.

Everyone's rich! Everyone has their own private Delta Force level personal security force, with an armada of drones, and it all equaling Area 51 level security.

Don't like a community's rules? Obviously there will be one that suits you.. because magic. Never mind the cost of entry to seasteeding alone:
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Originally Posted by Anenome
Now get rich with your first game so I can sells you one

Trying to build yourself a water based Elysium is fiction. Then again Anenome has shown himself to have a problem telling the difference between reality and fiction- as he cited illustrations as reality.

SpectralThundr 06-09-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VenomUSMC (Post 2308865)
Yup. Just opt out of tyranny. If only the Somalians had understood they didn't sign a contract with the warlords, those warlords would have been powerless. haha

Remember this:


Everyone's rich! Everyone has their own private Delta Force level personal security force, with an armada of drones, and it all equaling Area 51 level security.

Don't like a community's rules? Obviously there will be one that suits you.. because magic. Never mind the cost of entry to seasteeding alone:


Trying to build yourself a water based Elysium is fiction. Then again Anenome has shown himself to have a problem telling the difference between reality and fiction- as he cited illustrations as reality.

Oh and all those jobs these seasteads will magically create! It'll be like a living, breathing hippy commune! Except instead of smelly hippy commies, it'll be rich hipster wannabe anarchist who hate taxes but still be required to pay taxes being on US territory water! UTOPIA!

Anenome 06-09-2014 09:46 PM

These people vote.
http://i.imgur.com/KXszYBX.png

Anemone 06-11-2014 11:30 AM

Walmart in Williston, North Dakota, where the jobless rate is <1% pays 2.5x minimum wage.

http://i.imgur.com/Hykm1gt.jpg

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The photo above of wages at the Williston Walmart highlights some important economic concepts:

Walmart pays wages that reflect the economic conditions in a local market based on the supply and demand realities of the local labor market. In other words, Walmart can’t really set wages independent of market forces and it’s really at the mercy of the market in every local community. If Walmart offered the minimum wage of $7.25 per hour in the Bakken area, it wouldn’t be able to staff its stores.

The fact that Walmart is paying almost 2.5 times the minimum wage in Williston, ND is evidence that a single, national minimum wage for every city, county, labor market in the country can’t possibly make sense. Even proponents of the minimum wage have to agree that a single national minimum can’t be optimal for every labor market in the country. In that case, they would logically have to support thousands of minimum wages tailored to thousands of local communities, or maybe even more logically agree that minimum wages are unworkable.

You probably won’t be hearing anybody calling for a $15 per hour “living wage” in North Dakota, since the entry level wages at Walmarts there are already above that.

Source: http://www.aei-ideas.org/2014/06/a-r...-minimum-wage/

Anemone 06-11-2014 11:45 AM

http://i.imgur.com/D74cTz8.jpg

Anemone 06-11-2014 11:52 AM

But Who Will Build the Roads? Bogotans Will
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The belief that the state is a elite organization, the most important part of any society, is so entrenched that it has become part of our language. For instance, when affirming that a representative has done a good job, we often say that “he has improved the economy” or “he created jobs.” We forget that one person alone can do neither.

Such expressions fly in the face of reality. The evolution of complex social phenomena shows that the state is just another social organization, even if it fulfills special functions, such as security, that require coercive power. But more importantly, facts show that citizens can take back many of the functions traditionally considered a state monopoly.

In Bogotá, the capital of Colombia, we have two interesting examples. The first one involves a group of entrepreneurs coming together to propose infrastructure projects that the city needs. The second one involves the Urban Development Institute (IDU), responsible for the construction of public spaces, creating a program called “Work for Your Neighborhood,” through which citizens directly decide and partially pay for infrastructure improvements, like parks or walking lanes, in their area.

These two examples reveal that, on the one hand, citizens have realized that the local government is not after the mysterious “common good,” and now they are seeking to be the ones to determine major projects and demand their construction. On the other, the state is acknowledging its shortcomings and the importance of direct action of individuals, united by voluntary cooperation...

Anemone 06-11-2014 11:54 AM

Bitcoin Is Sedition
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Ever since the venture capital scene started talking about Bitcoin back in 2013, one of the most frequently cited comments from them is that Bitcoin is interesting for the technology, not the currency. In fact, this mantra has become so common that it almost sounds… scripted.

The Problem

What’s going on here?

Apparently millions of Bitcoin users around the globe never got the word that Bitcoin isn’t interesting as a currency. If Bitcoin wasn’t interesting as a currency, then why would the banking system need to go to such lengths to slow down the capital flight from the Dollar to Bitcoin by enacting restrictive Choke Point restrictions on both regular businesses and P2P trading?

The answer lies with the fate of the US Dollar. All government currencies have a finite life cycle, with an average lifespan of 27 years. The USD has lasted longer than most, but it will not be an exception. However, whether you’re talking about the Weimar Germany, or Argentina, or the USSR, or the USA, the death of a currency follows an known script. The most important part of this script is that the connected elites get out first and leave the rest of the population to be the bagholders.

The problem with Bitcoin is that goes off-script. The hoi polloi got into Bitcoin before the elites got into it, and Bitcoin contains none of the mechanisms via which they normally arbitrarily inflate the currency to enrich themselves. This is a problem if you’re part of the modern financial aristocracy. Something Must Be Done...
Most of us live assuming everything will continue on as usual as it always has during our lifetimes. But I think radical change is coming to this generation. How long do you assume the dollar will survive? Your lifetime? Not likely. And what does that mean for the world politically?

These are going to be interesting times.

And if the US is floundering politically, financially, and economically, they'll be too distracted to bother with my seastead. Checkmate.

SpectralThundr 06-11-2014 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Anemone (Post 2309951)
Bitcoin Is Sedition


Most of us live assuming everything will continue on as usual as it always has during our lifetimes. But I think radical change is coming to this generation. How long do you assume the dollar will survive? Your lifetime? Not likely. And what does that mean for the world politically?

These are going to be interesting times.

And if the US is floundering politically, financially, and economically, they'll be too distracted to bother with my seastead. Checkmate.

So the success of your little seastead utopia now rests on the US floundering and ignoring said seastead? Talk about moving the goal post.

http://blogs.vso.org.uk/wp-content/u...s-300x2402.jpg

Anemone 06-11-2014 01:20 PM

On the contrary, I've often said seasteading needs some kind of historical event to distract the attention of the US and allow the place to gain enough size to achieve political independence.

I said the fledgling US was helped along by the arrival of Napoleon, and war on the continent prevented the US from being reconquered by European powers. In fact, Napoleon himself had planned to invade the US after cowing all of Europe (which is why he sold the entire Louisiana territory to us, not merely a single harbor as US reps had asked for. He thought he'd trick us into helping pay for his war and then take it all back by force later).

You simply haven't been paying attention. Par for the course with you, Spectral.

SpectralThundr 06-11-2014 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anemone (Post 2309981)
On the contrary, I've often said seasteading needs some kind of historical event to distract the attention of the US and allow the place to gain enough size to achieve political independence.

I said the fledgling US was helped along by the arrival of Napoleon, and war on the continent prevented the US from being reconquered by European powers. In fact, Napoleon himself had planned to invade the US after cowing all of Europe (which is why he sold the entire Louisiana territory to us, not merely a single harbor as US reps had asked for. He thought he'd trick us into helping pay for his war and then take it all back by force later).

You simply haven't been paying attention. Par for the course with you, Spectral.

Considering how much you contradict yourself, then ignore said contradictions even when directly quoted why would any one waste time paying attention to anything you have to say? You'll just come back later and state you meant something completely different regardless.

You're full of shit Anenome, always have been, always will be.

Anemone 06-11-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralThundr (Post 2309998)
Considering how much you contradict yourself, then ignore said contradictions even when directly quoted why would any one waste time paying attention to anything you have to say? You'll just come back later and state you meant something completely different regardless.

You're full of shit Anenome, always have been, always will be.

What you mean to say is, "Oh yeah, that's right, I have seen you say that a few times now."

Thanks for playing, buddy ;)

Anemone 06-11-2014 04:50 PM

Five Years of Gas-Can Hell!

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It happened again but to tell the story I have to admit something a bit embarrassing. My gas meter on my car doesn’t work. I could get it fixed but it seems like a waste when I only need to calculate gas use carefully. I don’t always, which means I sometimes just run out, at inconvenient times.

This happened yesterday, so I had to get a can of gas from the local car shop. I started to pour it in. But, hmmm, this is strange. The nozzle doesn’t quite go in. I tilted it up and tried to jam it in.

I waited. Then I noticed gas pouring all down the side of the car. So I pulled it out and experimented by pouring it on the ground. There was some weird contraption on the outside and it wasn’t clear how it worked.

I poured more and more on the ground. Some got on my shoe. Some got on my hands. Some got on my suit.

Gas was everywhere really — everywhere but in the tank. It was a gassy mess. If someone had lit a match, I would have been a goner.

Finally I turned out the crazy nozzle thing a few times. It began to drip in a slightly coherent direction so I jammed it in. I ended up putting about one cup of gas in, started my car and made it to the gas station.

I’m pretty sure gas cans used to work. Yes. It was a can. It had a spout. It had a vent hole on the other side. You stuck in the spout and tipped. You never saw the gas.

Then government “fixed” the gas can. Why? Because of the environmental hazards that come with spilled gas. You read that right. In other words, the very opposite resulted. Now you cannot buy a decent can anywhere. You can look forever and not find a new one.

Instead you have to go to garage sales. But actually people hoard old cans. There is a burgeoning market in kits to fix the can.

The whole trend began in (wait for it) California. Regulations began in 2000, with the idea of preventing spillage. The notion spread and was picked up by the EPA, which is always looking for new and innovative ways to spread as much human misery as possible.

An ominous regulatory announcement from the EPA came in 2007: “Starting with containers manufactured in 2009… it is expected that the new cans will be built with a simple and inexpensive permeation barrier and new spouts that close automatically.”

The government never said “no vents.” It abolished them de facto with new standards that every state had to adopt by 2009. So for the last five years, you have not been able to buy gas cans that work properly. They are not permitted to have a separate vent. The top has to close automatically. There are other silly things now, too, but the biggest problem is that they do not do well what cans are supposed to do.

And don’t tell me about spillage. It is far more likely to spill when the gas is gurgling out in various uneven ways, when one spout has to both pour and suck in air. That’s when the lawn mower tank becomes suddenly full without warning, when you are shifting the can this way and that just to get the stuff out.

There’s also the problem of the exploding can. On hot days, the plastic models to which this regulation applies can blow up like balloons. When you release the top, gas flies everywhere, including possibly on a hot engine. Then the trouble really begins.

Never heard of this rule? You will know about it if you go to the local store. Most people buy one or two of these items in the course of a lifetime, so you might otherwise have not encountered this outrage.

Yet let enough time go by. A whole generation will come to expect these things to work badly. Then some wise young entrepreneur will have the bright idea, “Hey, let’s put a hole on the other side so this can work properly.” But he will never be able to bring it into production. The government won’t allow it because it is protecting us!

It’s striking to me that the websites and institutions that complain about government involvement in our lives never mentioned this, at least not so far as I can tell. The only sites that seem to have discussed this are the boating forums and the lawn forums. These are the people who use these cans more than most. The level of anger and vitriol is amazing to read, and every bit of it is justified.

There is no possible rationale for these kinds of regulations. It can’t be about emissions really, since the new cans are more likely to result in spills. It’s as if some bureaucrat were sitting around thinking of ways to make life worse for everyone, and hit upon this new, cockamamie rule.

These days, government is always open to a misery-making suggestion. The notion that public policy would somehow make life better is a relic of days gone by. It’s as if government has decided to specialize in what it is best at and adopt a new principle: “Let’s leave social progress to the private sector; we in the government will concentrate on causing suffering and regress.”

You are already thinking of hacks. Why not just stab the thing with a knife and be done with it? If you have to transport the can in the car, that’s a problem. You need a way to plug the vent with something.

Some boating forums have suggested drilling a hole and putting a tire stem in there and using the screw top as the way to close the hole. Great idea. Just what I wanted to do with my Saturday afternoon, hacking the gas can to make it work exactly as well as it did three years ago, before government wrecked it.
You can also buy an old-time metal can. It turns out that special regulations pertain here, too, and it’s all about the spout, which is not easy to fill. They are also unusually expensive. I’m not sure that either of these options is ideal.

It fascinates me to see how these regulations give rise to market-based workarounds. I’ve elsewhere called this the speak-easy economy. The government bans something. No one likes the ban. People are determined to get on with their lives, regardless. They step outside the narrow bounds of the law.

It wouldn’t surprise me to find, for example, a sudden proliferation of heavy-duty “water cans” in 1- and 5-gallon sizes, complete with nice spouts and vents, looking almost exactly like the gas cans you could get anywhere just a few years ago. How very interesting to discover this.

Of course, this law-abiding writer would never advocate buying one of these and using it for some purpose other than what is written on the package. Doing something like that would show profound disrespect for our betters in the bureaucracies. And if I did suggest something like that, there’s no telling the trouble that it would bring down on my head.

Ask yourself this: If they can wreck such a normal and traditional item like this, and do it largely under the radar screen, what else have they mandatorily malfunctioned? How many other things in our daily lives have been distorted, deformed and destroyed by government regulations?

If some product annoys you in surprising ways, there’s a good chance that it is not the invisible hand at work, but rather the regulatory grip that is squeezing the life out of civilization itself.

SpectralThundr 06-11-2014 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anemone (Post 2310027)
What you mean to say is, "Oh yeah, that's right, I have seen you say that a few times now. Thanks for playing, buddy ;)

No I said what I meant, now go back to reddit with the rest of your fedora wearing douchenozzles to lick your wounds. Face it, no one here is buying into your bullshit and it infuriates you to the point of double speak, which is pretty obvious since you can't stop trying to convince people here. Either put up and build your little house boat, or get off the damn pot already.

SpectralThundr 06-11-2014 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Anemone (Post 2310035)

Apparently he never heard of a funnel.

Anemone 06-11-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralThundr (Post 2310036)
No I said what I meant, now go back to reddit with the rest of your fedora wearing douchenozzles to lick your wounds. Face it, no one here is buying into your bullshit and it infuriates you to the point of double speak, which is pretty obvious since you can't stop trying to convince people here. Either put up and build your little house boat, or get off the damn pot already.

Lol, is that what you think. I indulged Venom for a time hoping he'd actually find an objection I hadn't encountered before, a "chink in the armor," but he didn't find any, and he descended into repetitive trolling. Ce la vie.

As for you, you're little more than a chihuahua yapping at my heels.

Anemone 06-11-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralThundr (Post 2310037)
Apparently he never heard of a funnel.

And what do you pour the gas out of, now that it has a nozzle designed to open only when pushed from the front? Are you going to pour gas into an open container instead of one of these state-approved ones? That's against the law.

Do you even think before you type something, Yap.


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